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	<title>Comments on: Workshop Submission #4</title>
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		<title>By: Marybk</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/03/22/workshop-submission-4/comment-page-1/#comment-5401</link>
		<dc:creator>Marybk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Struggling scribblers unite!* (laughing)

Hello. My name is Marybk and I am a struggling scribbler. 
*holds up thick purple crayon*

Thing is, when my teen speaks, he uses present tense when talking about something in the past if it happened to HIM and it was stressful--good or bad. To me, this is the best (unscientific) proof/argument I&#039;ve come across to use present tense for YA.

It&#039;s a shift for me. I&#039;m struggling. 
*puts crayon down and takes seat*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Struggling scribblers unite!* (laughing)</p>
<p>Hello. My name is Marybk and I am a struggling scribbler.<br />
*holds up thick purple crayon*</p>
<p>Thing is, when my teen speaks, he uses present tense when talking about something in the past if it happened to HIM and it was stressful&#8211;good or bad. To me, this is the best (unscientific) proof/argument I&#8217;ve come across to use present tense for YA.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shift for me. I&#8217;m struggling.<br />
*puts crayon down and takes seat*</p>
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		<title>By: @jmartinlibrary</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/03/22/workshop-submission-4/comment-page-1/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator>@jmartinlibrary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marybk:

I hear you. I struggle with things like this, too. 

Struggling scribblers unite!

Sometimes, I have to write something twice in different ways and read it at workshop. That way, I get feedback on what works best. 

Maybe this is a voice thing? I know so many different writers who approach tense and POV issues differently. 

You&#039;ll find what works for your story, keep at it! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marybk:</p>
<p>I hear you. I struggle with things like this, too. </p>
<p>Struggling scribblers unite!</p>
<p>Sometimes, I have to write something twice in different ways and read it at workshop. That way, I get feedback on what works best. </p>
<p>Maybe this is a voice thing? I know so many different writers who approach tense and POV issues differently. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find what works for your story, keep at it! <img src='http://kidlit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cat Woods</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/03/22/workshop-submission-4/comment-page-1/#comment-5393</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi,

You&#039;re an angel for putting yourself out there.  It is hard enough to send a query off when only the agent will see it and judge it in her mind.  When it is for the rest of the world to see and critique, it becomes infinitely harder to click send.  Thanks for doing so.

I enjoyed the sense of your MC&#039;s relationship with her mom.  I pictured, very vividly, my daughter rolling her eyes at me in this scenario.  I think, as suggested above, that this scene will be great elsewhere in your manuscript and that there might be something just on the other side of these 250 words that would start your story off with a bang.  I hope that&#039;s the case and a little rearranging will get you up and going.

Reading Mary&#039;s critique regarding word choices is helpful for me, because I tend to use words that kids don&#039;t typically use.  I have had to become hypersensitive to this while not dumbing down to my readers.  It&#039;s a tough balance, but one we will all learn with a little practice.

Best luck as you continue to work your way through your manuscript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an angel for putting yourself out there.  It is hard enough to send a query off when only the agent will see it and judge it in her mind.  When it is for the rest of the world to see and critique, it becomes infinitely harder to click send.  Thanks for doing so.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the sense of your MC&#8217;s relationship with her mom.  I pictured, very vividly, my daughter rolling her eyes at me in this scenario.  I think, as suggested above, that this scene will be great elsewhere in your manuscript and that there might be something just on the other side of these 250 words that would start your story off with a bang.  I hope that&#8217;s the case and a little rearranging will get you up and going.</p>
<p>Reading Mary&#8217;s critique regarding word choices is helpful for me, because I tend to use words that kids don&#8217;t typically use.  I have had to become hypersensitive to this while not dumbing down to my readers.  It&#8217;s a tough balance, but one we will all learn with a little practice.</p>
<p>Best luck as you continue to work your way through your manuscript.</p>
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		<title>By: Marybk</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/03/22/workshop-submission-4/comment-page-1/#comment-5392</link>
		<dc:creator>Marybk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jmartinlibrary--thanks for the POV link. I&#039;m struggling with one of my projects between present and past tense. The jury is still out.

I&#039;ve worked with present tense in short pieces of fiction, but I&#039;m resisting it right now for some reason I can&#039;t even put into words. I almost feel as if you have to have ongoing tension where every minute is an unknown with present tense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jmartinlibrary&#8211;thanks for the POV link. I&#8217;m struggling with one of my projects between present and past tense. The jury is still out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked with present tense in short pieces of fiction, but I&#8217;m resisting it right now for some reason I can&#8217;t even put into words. I almost feel as if you have to have ongoing tension where every minute is an unknown with present tense.</p>
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		<title>By: @jmartinlibrary</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/03/22/workshop-submission-4/comment-page-1/#comment-5387</link>
		<dc:creator>@jmartinlibrary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right that it&#039;s very popular, but it doesn&#039;t always work (for me). I love HUNGER GAMES, but there are other books (ones that shall remain nameless) which use it poorly. But I guess that&#039;s true of everything, right? 

Just to clarify, I didn&#039;t have any issues with the workshop piece&#039;s present tense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s very popular, but it doesn&#8217;t always work (for me). I love HUNGER GAMES, but there are other books (ones that shall remain nameless) which use it poorly. But I guess that&#8217;s true of everything, right? </p>
<p>Just to clarify, I didn&#8217;t have any issues with the workshop piece&#8217;s present tense.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jmartinlibrary -- Lots of kidlit is written in present tense because it is so immediate. Lots of readers aren&#039;t used to it, though, and never get fully immersed. However, it&#039;s still very, very popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jmartinlibrary &#8212; Lots of kidlit is written in present tense because it is so immediate. Lots of readers aren&#8217;t used to it, though, and never get fully immersed. However, it&#8217;s still very, very popular.</p>
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		<title>By: @jmartinlibrary</title>
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		<dc:creator>@jmartinlibrary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

I&#039;m not sure if anyone addressed this, but I&#039;ve read that present tense can be very powerful if you need to avoid foresight. It&#039;s a gamble, though. I&#039;ve read some amazing present tense novels, and some that are so distracting, I&#039;ve put them down for good. 

Here&#039;s a great link on the subject: 

http://www.rwanational.org/galleries/2009-workshop%20handouts/LookWhosTalking.pdf

Thanks for sharing your work. Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if anyone addressed this, but I&#8217;ve read that present tense can be very powerful if you need to avoid foresight. It&#8217;s a gamble, though. I&#8217;ve read some amazing present tense novels, and some that are so distracting, I&#8217;ve put them down for good. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a great link on the subject: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rwanational.org/galleries/2009-workshop%20handouts/LookWhosTalking.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.rwanational.org/galleries/2009-workshop%20handouts/LookWhosTalking.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your work. Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Canale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi Canale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know all this feedback has spawned a new idea for the beginning of my book!  Thanks for all the support everyone, and Mary be prepared to be inspired when I see you in April!  Just kidding, but a girl can dream, right?  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know all this feedback has spawned a new idea for the beginning of my book!  Thanks for all the support everyone, and Mary be prepared to be inspired when I see you in April!  Just kidding, but a girl can dream, right?  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of these workshop critiques have been incredibly helpful in the story I am currently writing. If I see something similar on here that I&#039;ve done in my story I am able to re-write it in a different way. Thanks to all who have shared their work and again thank you Mary for doing this for all of us. I hope you will do it again, I would be glad to share. Naomi, maybe you should have your opening line something like &quot;The smell of my birthday cake baking wafts up the stairs, making my nose tingle. I follow the smell down to the kitchen, where to my horror I find my mom bent over the oven, showing more to me than I&#039;ll ever need or want to see again in my lifetime.&quot; I know it&#039;s not great but it introduces your MC before it introduces Mom. Thanks for sharing your work and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these workshop critiques have been incredibly helpful in the story I am currently writing. If I see something similar on here that I&#8217;ve done in my story I am able to re-write it in a different way. Thanks to all who have shared their work and again thank you Mary for doing this for all of us. I hope you will do it again, I would be glad to share. Naomi, maybe you should have your opening line something like &#8220;The smell of my birthday cake baking wafts up the stairs, making my nose tingle. I follow the smell down to the kitchen, where to my horror I find my mom bent over the oven, showing more to me than I&#8217;ll ever need or want to see again in my lifetime.&#8221; I know it&#8217;s not great but it introduces your MC before it introduces Mom. Thanks for sharing your work and good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing Naomi! Learning a ton from your critiques Mary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing Naomi! Learning a ton from your critiques Mary.</p>
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