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		<title>By: Mary Ann Duke</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-92842</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent seven days with a 12 yr old and 15 yr old siblings. Sarcasm was the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent seven days with a 12 yr old and 15 yr old siblings. Sarcasm was the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Leanne Beattie</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-21152</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanne Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My MC is very dry and sarcastic, maybe too much so because I had an agent say the character wasn&#039;t likeable. I guess there is a fine line between being sarcastic and being irritable, even if that voice is what the story calls for--it came naturally and wasn&#039;t something I consciously decided to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My MC is very dry and sarcastic, maybe too much so because I had an agent say the character wasn&#8217;t likeable. I guess there is a fine line between being sarcastic and being irritable, even if that voice is what the story calls for&#8211;it came naturally and wasn&#8217;t something I consciously decided to do.</p>
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		<title>By: ladysugarquill</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-14514</link>
		<dc:creator>ladysugarquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! Personally I don&#039;t think you *need* sarcasm to make an interesting character; most of my favourites are really nice guys XD

But there&#039;s something that I found surprising, specially when reading the comments, and it&#039;s the talk about *choosing* a voice for the character. 

I write fanfics, so I do analyse the voices of other people&#039;s characters; what they would and wouldn&#039;t say, how they think. But I&#039;d never ever thought about *giving* my character a specific voice. But because it&#039;s not something I can give to them like I can a plot-relevant trinket.  I find there are some things I can choose or put there to make the plot work, but in the way I write characters just ARE, with their hair colour and their clothes and their voice. 

I can change the tone of the story, or the voice of the narrator; I can *refine* the way I express of the characters, but I can&#039;t change it. If it doesn-t work, then the character doesn&#039;t work.

But sometimes I feel I don&#039;t create the story; the story happens and I jut tell it (though if I want that scene with the strawberry cake I will put him next to a cake earlier XD). 

Not saying is wrong or anything! It just surprised me, because I don&#039;t think I can&#039;t do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Personally I don&#8217;t think you *need* sarcasm to make an interesting character; most of my favourites are really nice guys XD</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s something that I found surprising, specially when reading the comments, and it&#8217;s the talk about *choosing* a voice for the character. </p>
<p>I write fanfics, so I do analyse the voices of other people&#8217;s characters; what they would and wouldn&#8217;t say, how they think. But I&#8217;d never ever thought about *giving* my character a specific voice. But because it&#8217;s not something I can give to them like I can a plot-relevant trinket.  I find there are some things I can choose or put there to make the plot work, but in the way I write characters just ARE, with their hair colour and their clothes and their voice. </p>
<p>I can change the tone of the story, or the voice of the narrator; I can *refine* the way I express of the characters, but I can&#8217;t change it. If it doesn-t work, then the character doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>But sometimes I feel I don&#8217;t create the story; the story happens and I jut tell it (though if I want that scene with the strawberry cake I will put him next to a cake earlier XD). </p>
<p>Not saying is wrong or anything! It just surprised me, because I don&#8217;t think I can&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: In the Blogosphere: 1/10-2/11 &#171; My Daytime Drama</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-14381</link>
		<dc:creator>In the Blogosphere: 1/10-2/11 &#171; My Daytime Drama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve done a lot of thinking about the &#8220;mature voice&#8221; in teen fiction.  Here are amazegent Mary Kole&#8217;s thoughts on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve done a lot of thinking about the &#8220;mature voice&#8221; in teen fiction.  Here are amazegent Mary Kole&#8217;s thoughts on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: In the Blogosphere: 12/6-1/7 &#171; My Daytime Drama</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-12932</link>
		<dc:creator>In the Blogosphere: 12/6-1/7 &#171; My Daytime Drama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moving into more adult subjects in kids&#8217; lit FinePrint Literary agent Suzie Townsend touches on violence while Kole talks about mature voices. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Moving into more adult subjects in kids&#8217; lit FinePrint Literary agent Suzie Townsend touches on violence while Kole talks about mature voices. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kidlit.com &#183; The Problems With Sarcastic Voice</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-10159</link>
		<dc:creator>Kidlit.com &#183; The Problems With Sarcastic Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there is a lot of room on shelves for sarcastic teen voices (read a previous post on the topic here). But you can&#8217;t just give readers a sarcastic, quippy voice and a character who is biting and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there is a lot of room on shelves for sarcastic teen voices (read a previous post on the topic here). But you can&#8217;t just give readers a sarcastic, quippy voice and a character who is biting and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;How I Evaluate Full Manuscripts&#8221; (Porn for aspiring authors) &#171; the written word</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9842</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;How I Evaluate Full Manuscripts&#8221; (Porn for aspiring authors) &#171; the written word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dark YA novel with a real voice to match…no edgy for edginess’ sake and no voices that are sarcastic just because, please. Ghosts, murders, mystery. Ghosts, ghosts, ghosts. Did I mention ghosts? I like them less [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dark YA novel with a real voice to match…no edgy for edginess’ sake and no voices that are sarcastic just because, please. Ghosts, murders, mystery. Ghosts, ghosts, ghosts. Did I mention ghosts? I like them less [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Link Bait &#8211; Monday 13th September 2010 &#124; Inside The Margin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Bait &#8211; Monday 13th September 2010 &#124; Inside The Margin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dry, mature, Juno-like voices in youth [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kidlit.com &#183; How to Know When It Works</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9313</link>
		<dc:creator>Kidlit.com &#183; How to Know When It Works</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m caught up in your voice sounding inauthentic, or slow pacing, or awkward dialogue tags, or in grown-up language or phrases that sound like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://kidlit.com/2010/08/27/mature-voice-for-the-ya-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9249</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post on something that I&#039;ve been wrestling with!

Apropos, I can tell from Karsten Knight&#039;s tweets that he&#039;s got a great writing voice. Can&#039;t wait!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post on something that I&#8217;ve been wrestling with!</p>
<p>Apropos, I can tell from Karsten Knight&#8217;s tweets that he&#8217;s got a great writing voice. Can&#8217;t wait!!</p>
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